Wednesday, September 28, 2005
My 2 cents on the Rodney Controversy......
As for why wrestling died in Corinth I don't know that he's being totally honest with himself. Yes, from what I've been told the Butlers were total marks and put on some really bad shows BUT things were on a downhill slide quite awhile before that while he was still running. At one time Rodney was drawing some very large crowds(for the area) and the first time they started to go down was when he ditched the local guys and started using all Power Pro guys(which I'm sure in theory seemed like a good idea). Talking about forgetting who made you(and I'm not refferring to me, but rather the guys who had showed up every week for 4 years), the crowd really shit on those Power Pro guys and the crowds went down by half in a matter of weeks. Not to mention the fact we weren't told beforehand that we wouldn't be used, all the regulars showed up one night and was told they weren't needed. Eventually he brought back the regulars but he never seemed to regain the large following he had before. Another problem(in my opinion) was when he started letting more and more half trained and untrained people in the ring. Much like the White/Manness deal people started just showing up from everywhere saying they were workers and getting on the show. Most wouldn't stay long but some managed to linger. Like T-3/Sabu #2, he was the utter drizzlin' shits, but he used him regularly. Guys like Big Daddy Dale, now I like Marty, he's a helluva guy but he didn't need to be in the ring yet, especially against other guys who were just as green as he was. The other thing I don't understand(and didn't then either) was him using guys like Damian Rage. Now, I'm not knocking Damian, he was always a super nice guy, he's learned how to work since then and from what I hear is quite good now, but Rodney was using him regularly even though he admittedly hadn't been trained. Now he goes back and criticizes Damian, well ultimately Rodney is to blame, if you knew he wasn't trained and couldn't work why the hell were YOU using him on YOUR show???? Of course the guy is gonna get in there if you let him. Just like when Neil and I went out there and jumped those guys, and was told to beat the shit out of them, why the fuck were they in there in the first place?? The damage was already done, they had already exposed everything and brought the show to a screeching halt. That kinda shit went a lot further to damage the show than people realized. Now another sore subject for him was his pushing himself in the main events, he doesn't want to admit it but this did hurt him in the long run. Now just be honest with yourself here Rodney, if you go to a show and it's your first time there and the HEAVYWEIGHT champion walks out and he's 5'4 and 118 lbs carrying TWO belts(yes he held TWO heavyweight titles at the same time) it's pretty Goddamn hard to take the promotion seriously, especially when the "smart" fan beside you tells you that same guy happens to be the promoter, not like that was a secret. And your not out there beating guys your own size(cause there weren't many) you did an angle where you went over EVERY big man on the roster in consecutive weeks, huge guys like me and Hoss Williams. That shit makes it hard to suspend disbelief, you have to just shut off your whole brain. But I admit you WERE over with a large portion of the regulars untill.......you fucking turned heel, joined your arch enemy Don Bass(whom you had feuded with for 4 years) and became "The King of Corinth" complete with crown and all. How many people were we working in front of at that time?? Not many, I have tapes to prove it. Anyways after that went over like a fart in church you turned back face. Now from here I don't know much else cause I quit a few weeks later when that shitass Sabu #2 refused to the planned finish for a tag match, saying we might "hurt" him, even though HE had given a guy a concussion the week before. So when you were called over rather than telling him to do the finish cause Neil and I had never hurt ANYBODY, you tell me to just "give him a splash"(the standard generic fat guy finish). Now that coupled with the fact we were wrestling him and a guy called "Iceman" Chris Austin or some bullshit who came out to "Stone Cold's" music and used all his moves and mannerisms (which I thought was a fucking disgrace, made the whole show look like a cheap knockoff) I said, "fuck it" and refused to wrestle and left never to wrestle in Corinth again. It's funny after that Neil and I went to all the boards hyping a "shoot interview" on Rodney exposing him and he actually sent word through Jimmy Blaylock saying he was gonna sue us, and Jimmy said he sounded serious, so.............we posted it the next day. Nothing ever became of it and I saw Rodney at a legends show(in the crowd) a few years later and we talked and I have no problem with him(unless he get's pissed about this post)
The biggest thing Corinth was known for was piss poor payoffs, now he can say what he wants about breaking even but there was a time he was taking in a good door, and those were the nights we might get $5 a piece instead of handing Neil and I a $5 bill to "split"or just a see ya next week. I don't know what Brickhouse, Don Bass, or Gilbert was making but there wasn't much being paid out. That's why people would no show, cause if you could manage to get a paying booking you would ditch Corinth that week and go there and know you could just go back to Corinth the next week. Anyway the point of this isn't a slam against Rodney or anyone for that matter, it's to point out there's more than one side to every story, and I'm sure alot of different guys have a lot of different takes on Corinth and Rodney, but I'm glad Rodney had a show for us to work on every week it helped us get experience and I think all in all it was a good experience for everyone. Again, not trying to stir the pot or get heat with anyone just giving you my take on it all. Take it for what it's worth. If anyone has an opposing view or would like to comment please do so, either here, on Jimmy's board, or you can email me at genejackson@charter.net
Thanks for reading
GENE
Tuesday, September 27, 2005
"Mega Man" Speaks Out!
WHAT A PERSON WILL DO TO FORFULL THERE DREAM/ GOAL .
Posted by RODNEY GRIMES on 9/24/2005, 4:51 am
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| HELLO MY IS RODNEY GRIMES. I HAVE WRESTLED AND PROMOTED CWA CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. I USELY DON'T COME ON HERE AND TALK ABOUT THINGS. I HAVE SEEN AND LEARNED ABOUT THE WRESTLING BUSINESS.BUT I THINK THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE TO EVERYONE. THAT WOULD HAVE A DIFFERANT OUTLOOK ON WRESTLING (PROMOTING/WRESTLING)ON A WRESTLING EVENT.ALOT OF WRESTLING FANS AND WORKERS(WRESTLERS) THINK THAT IT IS EASY TO PROMOTE A WRESTLING EVENT.THEY ALSO THINK THAT IF THEY SEE A BIG CROWD THAT THE PROMOTER HAS MADE ALOT OF MONEY THAT NIGHT.THAT IS NOT ALWAYS TRUE.ALMOST 75% OF THE TIME A PROMOTER IS DOING GOOD TO BREAK EVEN.WHICH IS VERY HARD TO DO THIS DAY AND TIME FOR INDY PROMOTIONS.WHICH SOME INDY PROMOTERS DON'T ADVERTISE THERE WRESTLING EVENTS.WHICH IS A DIFFERANT STORY.BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T ADVERTISE THEN MOST OF TIME YOU DON'T HAVE A CHANCE TO DRAW A CROWD.IF WRESTLING FANS DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE WRESTLING EVENT THEN THEY WOULDN'T KNOW TO COME. SO, THE COST PROMOTING A WRESTLING EVENT IS VERY HIGH.A PROMOTER HAS BUILDING RENT,ADVERTISING, RING RENT(IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE),STATE ATHELTIC COMMISSION(IF THERE IS ONE IN THE STATE YOU ARE RUNNING), MOST PLACES INSURANCE, AND YOUR TALENT.SO, IT IS HARD TO MAKE MONEY IN THE WRESTLING BUSINESS NOW DAYS. EVERY SINCE I WAS I LITTLE KID AND CAN REMEMBER WATCHING WRESTLING OUT OF MEMPHIS , TN. THAT WAS ALWAYS MY DREAM OR GOAL WAS TO BECOME A WRESTLER. I ALWAYS ENJOYED WATCHING JERRY LAWLER, BILL DUNDEE, HANDSOME JIMMY VALIANT, DON BASS,EDDIE GILBERT, AUSTIN IDOL,JIMMY HART,JOE LEDUC,JACKIE FARGO,TOMMY GILBERT,AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.WRESTLING WAS SO DIFFERANT THEN. THEN IT IS NOW.BECAUSE OF VARIOUS REASONS.EVERYTIME I PROMOTE WRESTLING EVENT I ALWAYS TRY TO PROMOTE AND RUN MY EVENTS LIKE THE OLE MEMPHIS DAYS THAT I GROW UP WATCHING.I ALWAYS ASKED MYSELF "IF I PAID FOR A TICKET FOR THIS EVENT DID I FEEL LIKE I GOT MY MONEY WORTH?" SO I ALWAYS GIVE MY BEST ON ALL OF MY WRESTLING EVENTS TO GIVE THE FANS WHO BOUGHT A TICKET TO GIVE THEM THERE MONEYS WORTH.(TO MAKE THE FANS WANT TO COME BACK) AND I FEEL LIKE MOST OF THE TIMES I DID. WHEN I GOT OUT OF SCHOOL , I WENT TO THE USWA WRESTLING SCHOOL IN NASHVILLE,TN. WHICH JEFF JARETTEE RAN . THERE WERE SERVERAL GUYS THERE AT THE WRESTLING SCHOOL AT THAT TIME. GUYS LIKE CHARLIE LAIRD,JIM DOTSON(AKA WRESTLED AS JIM HARRIS ),LEON DOWNS, AND A FEW MORE WERE AT THE USWA WRESTLING SCHOOL AT THAT TIME.I DROVE ABOUT 3 HOURS EVERY SUNDAY TO NASHVILLE TO THIS WRESTLING SCHOOL.SO , FINALLY AFTER ABOUT THE 5TH OR 6TH WORKOUT JEFF JARETTEE TOLD ME PLANNLY THAT I NEEDED TO GET INTO THE GYM AND WORKOUT AND GAIN SOMEMORE WEIGHT.AT THAT TIME I ONLY WEIGHTED LIKE ABOUT 118 LBS.SO I TOOK HIS ADVICE AND DID THIS . I STARTED WORKING OUT AND STARTED GAINING WEIGHT .GAINED ABOUT 60 LBS . SO THERE WAS A INDY PROMOTION THAT RAN IN MY HOMETOWN OF CORINTH, MS. THAT LEE AND BILLY RAY HICKERSON PROMOTED AT THE TIME.SO I HAD A CLOSE FRIEND (TOMMY SANDERS WHO ALSO WRESTLED FOR THEM)THAT INTRODUCED ME TO LEE AND BILLY HICKERSON AT ONE OF THERE WRESTLING EVENTS.I TOLD BILLY RAY THAT I HAD BEEN WORKING OUT WITH JEFF JARETTEE IN NASHVILLE, TN.SO, HE TOLD ME SHOW UP THRUSDAY NIGHT TO WORKOUT. SO THE NEXT THRUSDAY NIGHT I GOT INTO THE RING WITH BILLY RAY HICKERSON AND WE WORKOUT.HE SEEN THAT I HAD BEEN WORK WITH AND THAT I HAD THE HEART AND WHAT IT TAKES TO BECOME A PRO WRESTLER FOR MY SIZE. THE FOLLOWING THRUSDAY NIGHT BILLY RAY AND LEE RAN A SHOW IN FINGER,TN. WITH USWA WRESTLING OUT OF MEMPHIS, TN. SO , I WENT TO SHOW TO HELP WITH SHOW HAD NO IDEAL THAT WAS GOING TO WRESTLE THAT NIGHT. SO I ENDED UP WRESTLING MY FIRST MATCH IN A MOONDOG BATTLE WITH BILL DUNDEE, MOONDOGS, SCOTT STUD(AKA SCOTTY WREN), AND SEVERAL OTHERS WHICH WAS GREAT. I ALWAYS SAID WHEN I WAS GROWING UP IN HIGH SCHOOL THAT I WAS GOING TO BECOME A WRESTLER AND FINALLY I WRESTLED MY FIRST MATCH.AND THIS STARTED THIS ROLLER COASTER OF RIDE THAT I HAVE BEEN TAKING AND STILL RIDING FROM TIME TO TME. SO, I WRESTLED FOR THIS PROMOTION AND HELPED CO PROMOTE FOR A WHILE.BECAME GOOD FRIENDS WITH LEE AND BILLY RAY HICKERSON . LEE HICKERSON (AND HIS WIFE (KIDS) MOM , DAD) EVEN MOVED INTO MY HOUSE THAT I HAD FOR RENT AT THAT TIME.EVERYTHING WAS GOING GOOD. UNTIL I THE TIME THAT I HAD TO ASKED THEM TO MOVE BECAUSE I WAS FIXING GET MARRIED AND NEEDED MY HOUSE TO LIVE IN.I THINK UNTIL THIS DAY THEY STILL HOLD THAT AGAINST ME. SO THEY MOVED AND STOPPED RUNNING CORINTH AND SERVERAL WEEKS LATER . I STARTED CWA CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING IN CORINTH EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT.I PROMOTED EVERY FRIDAY IN CORINTH, MS. FOR ABOUT 5 YEARS STRAIGHT.I WAS PROMOTING ON FRIDAY NIGHTS WHEN NO ELSE WAS AT THE TIME.AND WAS DRAWING GOOD ON THE SAME NIGHT AS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL PLAYED.WHICH WAS VERY GOOD.IT WAS AMAZING SOME NIGHTS TO SEE WHO WOULD SHOW UP WANTING WRESTLE. AND ALMOST ALL OF TIME I WOULD USE THEM. EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT IN CORINTH, MS MAN I MISS THOSE DAYS SOMETIMES.A LOT OF THE INDY WRESTLERS GOT THERE START RIGHT THERE IN CORINTH, MS.INDY WRESTLERS LIKE LANCE JADE,BIG HOSS WILLIAMS, THE SOULTAKER,DERRICK KING,DANNY B. GOOD, CHRIS ROCKER,DUSTIN STAR, JETT LOGAN,ALEX KRASIS,BLADE,JOHNNY DOTSON,KEVIN WHITE,"HOLLWOOD"JIMMY BLAYLOCK,NEIL TAYLOR,AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.EVEN KURT ANGLE AND ARRON O'GRADY )AKA CRASH HOLLY HAS EVEN WRESTLED FOR ME WHEN THEY WAS IN POWER PRO WRESTLING.OFTEN SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE SOME OF THESE WRESTLERS FORGET WERE THEY CAME FROM AND WERE THEY COULD COME AND LEARNED THERE TRADE AT . WHEN THERE WAS NO WHERE ELSE TO GO ON FRIDAY NIGHTS. MOST OF TIME WRESTLERS HAVE THERE OWN CLICK .EIRTHER YOUR IN OR YOUR NOT. MOST YOUNG INDY WRESTLERS TODAY DON'T TAKE THERE TRADE SERIOUS.AND SOME DOES.WHICH REALLY HURTS THE WRESTLING BUSINESS.ALSO WANT HURTS THE WRESTLING BUSINESS IS TO SHOW UP FOR YOUR BOOKINGS.IF YOU ARE BOOK ON A SHOW SHOW UP THAT NOT ONLY HURTS THE PROMOTION BUT IT ALSO HURTS YOUR NAME YOUR TRYING TO BUILDED UP. BUT WHAT I WANT TO REALLY TALK ABOUT IS THE THINGS A PERSON WILL GO THROUGH TO DO WHAT HE LOVES SO MUCH TO DO.SOMETIMES I ASKED MYSELF IS IT REALLY WORTH IT? THERE ARE SOME REALLY GOOD PEOPLE IN THE WRESTLING BUSINESS AND THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE NOT.THERE SOME THAT ARE GREEDY AND SOME THAT ARE NOT.SOME THAT ARE REAL GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO AND SOME THAT ARE NOT WORTH A DAM . BUT THEY THINK THEY ARE MADE OF GOLD AND KNOW EVERYTHING.THESE ARE THINGS THAT YOU LEARN AND SEE IN THE WORLD OF WRESTLING. I HAVE HAD SO MANY TELL ME HOW TO RUN A PROMOTION AND THINGS TO DO TO MAKE MONEY IN WRESTLING BUSINESS. BUT I STOP AND ASKED MYSELF IF IT WAS THAT EASY TO MAKE MONEY THEN WHY DON'T THEY DO IT THERE SELFS.I AM NOT AS STUPID AS SOME PEOPLE THINK I AM. "WILDFIRE'TOMMY RICH WRESTLED FOR ME FEW TIMES.I GREW UP WATCHING HIM WRESTLE MANY TIMES.MOST TIMES TOMMY WOULD SHOW UP MESSED UP.ONE TIME TOMMY RICH SHOWED UP NOT BOOKED ON THE CARD, SO MESSED THAT DOUG GILBERT HAD TO DRIVE HIM TO HIS HOUSE.I DON'T SEE HOW HE MADE IT FROM ATLANTA TO CORINTH.ONE THING I WILL NEVER FORGET ABOUT TOMMY RICH IS WHEN MY MOTHER GOT BAD SICK AND I HAD TO CANCEL A SHOW .WHEN I CALLED TO TELL HIM THE SHOW WAS CANCEL . HE TOLD ME THAT IF I DON'T SEND HIM HIS MONEY FOR THE SHOW, HE WOULD COME TO CORINTH ,MS AND KICK MY ASS.I FELT LIKE THIS WAS VERY UNPROFESSIONALLY OF A PRO WORKER TO DO THIS.WHEN THE PROMOTER HAS A FAMILY SICKNESS.HE SURE DIDN'T GET HIS MONEY HE WANTED.THIS IS JUST ONE OF MANY THINGS I WOULD LOVE TO SHARE YOU. A FEW YEARS AGO, I HAD DAVE MULLIGAN MAKE ME CWA HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE FOR THE PROMOTION TO HAVE.DAVE DID REALLY GOOD JOB ON THIS BELT.THIS WAS THE FIRST BELT THE PROMOTION HAD.THEN ALL OF SUDDEN MY BELT CAME UP MESSING. I LET BRICKHOUSE BROWN USE IT MAKE SOME PICTURES WITH IT AND NEVER SEEN IT SINCE. I ASKED BRICK ABOUT IT AND HE TOLD ME THAT JOHNNY DOTSON HAD IT.SO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT SINCE.IT WAS MY MISTAKE FOR LETTING IT LEAVE THE BUILDING.YOU LIVE AND LEARN . SOMETIMES THE HARD WAY. TALKING ABOUT YOUNG INDY WORKERS NOT REMEMBERING WERE THEY GOT ONE OF THERE STARTS FROM.ONE THAT COMES TO MIND OFF THE TOP MY HEAD IS KEVIN WHITE.KEVIN WHITE GOT ONE HIS STARTS IN CORINTH, MS. FOR CWA CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING.KEVEN WHITE AND BRAIN MANESS SHOWED UP ONE NIGHT TO START WRESTLING FOR ME.THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY HAD BEEN WORKING SOME IN COOKVILLE ,TN.AND THAT PHIL HICKERSON HAD BEEN WORKING WITH THEM.WELL I PUT THEM IN THE RING AND GAVE THEM A GOOD PUSH. THEY WAS OVER WELL WITH THE FANS.THEN ONE NIGHT KEVIN WHITE GOT MAD BECAUSE A WORKER NAMED WAR MACHINE THAT WEIGHTED ABOUT 400 LBS. WOULD NOT BUMP FOR HIM.WELL I GUY THIS BIG IS GOING TO DO MUST BUMPING.SO, HE GOT MAD AND LEFT.WELL COUPLE NIGHTS LATER BRAIN MANESS CALLED ME AND TOLD HE AND KEVIN WHITE HAS NOT BEEN WORKING WITH PHIL HICKERSON.THAT IT WAS ALL A LIE TO GET TO WORK.SO, THE NEXT I KNOW HE IS TRAINED MY BILL DUNDEE .AND IS ON MEMPHIS WRESTLING WHICH IS FINE.BUT I FEEL THE ONLY REASON HE IS ON MEMPHIS WRESTLING BECAUSE OF HIS DADDY GARY WHITE. BECAUSE GARY WHITE OWNS THE RINGS THEY USE SO THEY USE KEVIN .WHICH IF MY SON WANTED TO WRESTLE I WOULD HELP HIM OUT ANY WAY I CAN.I GUESS THATS THE BRAKES YOU WHEN YOU HAVE THAT PULL. I REALLY LOVE WORKING WITH JERRY LAWLER,DON BASS, DUTCH MANTEL, HANDSOME JIMMY VALIANT,TOMMY GILBERT,AND GUYS LIKE THIS . THIS GUYS HAVE BEEN AROUND . AND THEY ARE REAL PROS. NOW, THAT WRESTLING IS DEAD IN CORINTH THANKS TO BOBBY AND HIS DAD WADE BUTLER. WHEN I HAD TO CLOSE CORINTH FOR A WHILE TO TAKE OF MY MOTHER THAT WAS BAD SICK.BRICKHOUSE BROWN GOT WITH THESE MARKS.AND STARTED RUNNING CORINTH. WHILE THEY ENDED UP MESSING OVER BRICKHOUSE THEN DOUG GILBERT. THEN KILLED THE TOWN BY USING JUST ANY ANYBODY, FIGHTING BETWEEN THERE SELFS (I THINK THE WHOLE FAMILY WAS REALLY FIGHTING AT ONE TIME), AND THEY RAN THE GREAT WRESTLING FANS OFF BY BEING RUDE TO THEM.SO CORINTH IS DEAD AND WOULD BE HARD TO RUN AGAIN. |
PART 2:
VOID. I DON'T KNOW YOU.I DO KNOW YOU HAVE NEVER WORK FOR ME .SO HOW DO YOU KNOW JACK CRAP ABOUT ME OR WHAT I DO OR HAVE DONE.YOU DON'T .ALL YOU KNOW IS HEAR SAY.I DO KNOW THAT YOU WRESTLE FOR THE BULTERS DURING THE TIME THEY KILL CORINTH.NOT SAYING YOU WAS THE ONE KILL IT YOURSELF.THE ONES THAT WERE RUNNING THE PROMOTION KILLED THE TOWN.I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU VIOD. WHAT HAVE YOU EVERY DONE IN THE WRESTLING BUSINESS?WHERE HAVE YOU GONE ? WHAT IS YOUR CLAIM TO FAME IN WERSTLING? LETS FACE IT YOU ARE LIKE SOME OF THE REST YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING.BUT GIVE YOU CREDIT YOU TRY YOUR BEST.AND THATS GOOD.
YOU TALKIKG ABOUT ME WEIGHTING 180 LBS. AND PUTTING THE CWA HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE ON MYSELF.WELL IT'S LIKE THIS IT'S NOT HOW YOU DO IT , IT'S THE WAY YOU DO IT.AND IF THE WRESTLING FANS LIKE IT AND COME BACK FROM WEEK TO WEEK THEN YOU MUST BE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT.AND I MUST HAVE BEEN DOING SOMETHINGS RIGHT BECAUSE THE AMERICAN LEGION BUILDING WAS PACKED EVERY FRIDAY.YOU KNOW THEY HAS BEEN MORE WRESTLING FANS COME TO THE AMERICAN LEGION BUILDING AND WATCH ME AMD WRESTLING PROMOTION THEN ANY PROMOTION THAT HAS EVRY RAN IN CORINTH .AND I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT 30 AND 40 FANS EACH WEEK.AND IT COULD BE ALOT OF JEALOUSLY ALSO THAT THE BELT WAS ON ME.
A WRESTLER (WORKER) HAS EQUAL TIME TO GET HIS OR HER SELF OVER NO MATTER WHAT THE MATCH IS.IF YOUR GOOD ENOUGH YOU CAN DO THAT.SOME HAVE IT AND SOME DON'T.SIZE DON'T MATTER. NOW DAYS ANYBODY CAN GET INTO RING AND CALL THEM SELF A PRO WRESTLER.IT'S THAT EASY.
FOR AN EXAMPLE , THERE WERE 3 GUYS THAT WANTED ME TO TRAIN THEM . THEY CAME AND WORKOUT FOR 1 NIGHT AND THEN QUIT.THEY CAME TO MY WRESTLING THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS. AND THEN THEY WENT UP TO THE ATHELTIC COMMISSIONER AND WANTED TO BUY THERE WRESTLING LIC.AND THE COMMISSIONER SOLD THEM THERE WRESTLING LIC. WITH NO QUESTIONS ASKED.I WENT AND ASKED THE COMMISSIONER WHY DID HE SELL THEM THERE WRESLING LIC. WHEN THEY WERE NEVER TRAINED YET?AND HE TOLD ME THAT HE DIDN'T CARE AS LONG AS HE GOT HIS MONEY FOR LIC. .SO, THEY NEXT THING I KNOW THEY WORKING DOWN SOUTH MS. FOR LORD HUGO CALLING THEMSELFS DAMION RAGE, GARY WOOLRIDGE,AND NATHAN LEE.SO YOU SEE ANY BODY CAN GET INTO THE RING AND CALL THEMSELFS A WRESTLER.AND THIS ALSO KILLS THE WRESTLING BUSINESS AND HAS KILL WRESTLING AROUND NORTH MS. AS A WHOLE.
SOMETIMES ON FRIDAY NIGHTS I THOUGHT I WAS RUNNING A BABYSITTING SERVICE INSTEAD OF PROMOTIING WRESTLING.AND IT WASN'T THE YOUNG TALENT THAT I MIGHT HAVE TROUBLE WITH FROM TIME TO TIME.SOME OF THE VETERANS AS WELL WERE ACTING CHILDISH AT TIMES.
MY POINT IS THAT I HAVE LIVED MY DREAM AND I HAVE DID WHAT I WANTED TO DO.I HAVE WRESTLE AND I HAVE PROMOTED.AND STILL DO IT FROM TIME TO TIME. AND THESE ARE JUST A DROP IN THE BUCKET OF SOME OF THINGS THAT I HAVE INCOUNTERED IN THE WORLD OF WRESTLING.
SO, I ASK MYSELF IF IT'S WORTH IT? YES, I GUESS IT IS . SEEMS LIKE WRESTLING IS LIKE A DRUG WHEN YOU DO IT AND HAVE DONE IT.IT'S HARD TO WALK AWAY FROM IT.SO, EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A FIX AND DO IT AGAIN.
Thursday, September 22, 2005
A "Legendary" Post
Local Legends?
Well after taking up for JD's last column I have to sorta take issue with his newest one. No disrespect to anyone he mentioned in that column but I think we're getting pretty free and easy with the word "legend". Here's an excerpt from that column:
"So what I am saying is that longevity and name recognition is two minor qualifications for being a "local indy legend" in my opinion. Again let me stress I am not talking about how good or bad they might or might not be, I am merely talking about how well known they are by fans and other wrestlers."
"So when I grab that microphone and call myself a real "Mississippi wrestling legend", that is what I mean. I ain't really trying to say I'm that great (but if the fans in the seats want to understand it that way, then more power to them), but really only that YOU know who I am."
Again not a knock on anybody but that's some pretty BROAD criteria. As for people knowing who they are, everyone knows the crazy son of a bitch wearing a sailor har that stands outside the local Wal-Mart and begs everybody for change, but that doesn't make him a "legend" and just because he's hard headed enough to continue to do it for 10-15 years doesn't make him a "legend". Just means he doesn't have a clue... Again I'm not knocking any of the guys you named or you for that matter, but the criteria you are going by simply makes them "known" rather than "unknown" not nessecerily "legendary".
Anyway just my 2 cents on the topic, not saying I'm right. Just my opinion.
"The 28 Year Old Living Legend"
Gene Jackson
(Hey, some folks know who I am..........)
Monday, September 19, 2005
Eat your heart out Triple H.......

However, I have to say the X Division title match DID NOT (Credit: David Burcham)
dissapoint! Christopher Daniels vs. AJ Styles vs. Samoa Joe has to be a top candidate for 'Match of the Year'. It will definetly go down as one of the top three Triple Threat matches of all time along with the original three way dance- Shane Douglas vs. Sabu vs. Terry Funk and the Wrestlemania 20 WWE Title Match- Triple H vs. Chris Benoit vs. Shawn Michaels. All three guys were phenomenal(no pun intended) in this match. The only part I didn't like, I would have kept the belt on Daniels and go into the new tv show putting over his long title reign and the fact that he'd held it longer than anyone, and show clips of all the people he had defeated. Then they could have started AJ vs. Daniels as a fresh angle on Spike building the story of AJ's quest to get the belt off Daniels instead of Styles(the poster child for TNA) walking in with the belt from day 1. Oh well, I think Samoa Joe should be in the World title picture by the first of the year. He's one of the most well rounded workers on there roster. He's got size, he can mat wrestle, he can work with the high flyers, the big guys, small guys and he's is believable. TNA needs to check out tapes of his nearly 2 year reign as Ring of Honor Champion. As for AMW turning heel, I figure it was done in anticipation of bringing in the former Dudleyz or Team 3-D I think is what they are going by now, at least that's what they used at the WrestleReunion show a few weeks back. If so then it's a good idea cause the Dudleyz are gonna be cheered there more than likely.
Well I haven't seen it yet but I should have a copy by the end of the week. But having read the results I may have wasted my money even buying a copy of it. I'm sorry folks, and I'm sure some people are gonna dissagree but I have to say this, RIC FLAIR IS TOO GODDAMN OLD TO BE STILL WINNING TITLES. I mean if it was on some of these sad ass "legend shows" it would be understandable, you know these legend shows that turn up EVERY month with these poor guys trying to hold on to what's left of there legacy. I don't mean any disrespect and one match here and there is fine but have you seen some of these guys lately?? It's pretty sad. I've got a dvd from North Carolina of a balding "Fantastic" Bobby Fulton with his trunks pulled up to his nipples still trying to live off his eighties persona. On this same disc you have "Return of the Skywalkers" (I had to order it just to see this) It's a rematch of the 1987 25 Ft. High Scaffold Match between The Midnight Express and the Rock & Roll Express. Folks this was unbelievable. They show the ring announcer during the first match and the scaffold is about three feet above his head. Honestly the scaffold was all of about 8 ft. high. These old guys climb up there and after a few minutes, RICKY MORTON PLUMMETS TO THE MAT AT 90 MPH!! Actually he dangled off the side and then dropped the foot and a half to the mat. My stepson has taken worse bumps from the monkey bars at the park. It was a real sight to see. But anyway my point is, these shows are taking place in front of a few hundred people and those of us unfortunate enough to spend money on the dvd, Flair is on worldwide television. Not really sure how this will play out but I'm willing to bet it will involve some brilliant swerve no one will see coming where HHH will turn on Flair only to have Flair turn and rejoin him two weeks later.......can't wait. Anyway that seemed to be the only thing of note from the PPV. Cena retained, the cage match was said to be pretty good and Lance Cade and Ricky..uh I mean Trevor Murdoch won the oh so prestigious tag titles. Speaking of Ricky Murdoch, I recently picked up the NWA 55th Anniversary dvd which includes him defending his National title and the commentator is just burying his ass through the whole match, saying he's fat and can't wrestle. Not that I'm against bashing Ricky Murdoch but this guy does this through a lot of the matches showing he doesn't know shit about being a commentator. You don't acknowledge that the guys suck in the ring, you try to cover it up and make the most of it, You don't see J.R. on RAW when people blow spots going, "Well that was a clusterfuck, what a couple of dumbasses." Clueless jackoffs like that are the reason the business is in the toilet and will continue to be for a long time to come.
Well that's all for now, but before I ago I want to thank SGWA for linking my column on there website along with Deven Raynes linking me from his. I've added link to there sites as well, go check them out.
GENE
Thursday, September 15, 2005
You can never win.....
Friday, September 09, 2005
Lord Hugo vs. "Nightmare" Ken Wayne
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lord humongous
Member # 552
Icon 1 posted 09-06-2005 05:36 PM
I think it is funny that Ryan can't even get the look right. Here is my web-site please someone show it to him and then maybe he can look like me.
community.webtv.net/lordhugo/LORDHUMONGOUS
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NYTERSS
Member # 535
Icon 1 posted 09-06-2005 06:34 PM
Somehow I don't think he wants to look like you. Seriously though, the Hugo gimmick is way outdated. Time to move on.
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lord humongous
Member # 552
Icon 1 posted 09-06-2005 10:02 PM
Ok to clear this up about who owns the Hugo gimmick. The one in the movie is spelled Humungus mine is spelled Humongous. I copyrighted that spelling of it. I also changed the look slightly so that I could get the copyright.
Now as far as the gimmick being outdated........ If that was true why is so many people trying to use it? Also I just did a run in the NorthWest with it and have done a tour of South Africa with it. So I don't believe that it is that outdated.
Now I know several people have done this gimmick with Mike Stark being the first, Jeff Van Kamp being the second and me being the third. And then there is everyone else after us.
But truth be told I am the only one that has taken this"outdated gimmick" as far as it has gone as far as different countries and states. Noone else has done this so I think that after the copyright and after when all I have taken it then I do believe that I have the right to call myself Lord Humongous.
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lord humongous
Member # 552
Icon 1 posted 09-07-2005 10:20 AM
Ok this is a reply to Ken Wayne. Ken yes I do know how to work or I wouldn't have worked for WCW (which I did for 3 years), Deep South and many other promotions all over the country. So yes I do think I have learned my craft. Now as far as me getting paid and what I get paid..........I can't believe that this is going on a message board but here goes. No ken the reason I don't work for most promotions in Mississippi and work in other states is because I do ghet paid. Most promotions in this state can't afford to pay me what I want so I go to other states. So no I won't work cheap. Now again as far as the gimmick being out dated......if it is then way does everyone still want it? Now as far as my weight goes......it is clear that you haven't seen me lately so trust me you don't know what I look like and yes there was a time when I let that go but trust me you haven't seen me lately.
Now Kenny you have a right to your opinion but trust me young man I haven't hurt the business. Because 1. I won't work for 5.00 and 2. I do know my craft and how to worek and if I didn't I damn sure wouldn't have been around for 22 years still getting booked week in and week out.
And I don't want anyone taking this the wrong way because I have always liked and respected Ken Wayne but truthfully Kenny I think you are way off base with this and I find it very hurtful you would say this stuff.
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NYTERSS
Member # 535
Icon 1 posted 09-07-2005 04:34 PM
First Gary, I deleted the post because I like you and didn't want to hurt your feelings. I thought I deleted the post before anyone saw it. But the way I feel about people personally and business is two completly different things. I bet you have never had to give a friend their notice, I have, and it was 100% a business decision. And I have had to do it more than once. What I have to say about the business or people in it, isn't personally motivated, it's strictly business. I want everyone to live up to their potential, I hope you understand that.
I have heard you lost weight, congratulations. You aren't the only one I have said anything about their weight, if I didn't care I wouldn't have brought it up to you or anyone else. In fact I have had several guys call me and keep me posted on their weight loss. (You need to change the pics on your website)
As far as you knowing your craft, I have never seen any evidence of it. The Hugo gimmick was used , as Jimmy Hart would say, to "camoflage" the fact that a guy can't work. That's why it was put on Mike Stark. Jeff wasn't too much in the skills department either and he knows it. Sid did learn to work, but it was put on him for the same reason. That and man did he ever fit the gimmick. Doing that gimmick and knowing your craft are 2 different things.
You have taken a short term, camoflage gimmick and tried to make a career out of it. And quite honestly, you probably could have gone much farther as Gary Nations. Actually I like that name much better. It's got a good ring to it. But I digress.
As far as everyone wanting the gimmick, well, I don't know of any. I have talked to several promoters and they tell me that you call and want to work with the gimmick and you will do it rather cheap. They only told me these things because I was looking for talent and they brought your name up. And I didn't call you mainly because we didn't need the gimmick at the time. Like I said, I am only going by what I was told.
As far as you being in WCW for 3 years and 22 years in the business and whatever else you said, I don't know about any of that, I have only known of you the last 10 or so years, but being in wcw or anywhere doesn't mean you know your craft. There are guys in wwe right now that don't know their craft. I can only speak of what I have seen and opinions of others that have have seen your work in recent years. But in all fairness, I have seen much worse, hell, I have had to work with some of them.
On a side note, it's hard to do that gimmick for as long as you have and learn the craft. I mean why or how would you, Lord Hugo's act doesn't have to know the craft, it's a very easy gimmick to do, you don't really have to do much. That's the main reason Sid wanted out of the gimmick, so he could display his skills. When Sid, as LH, started displaying skills it all but killed LH off.
All of what I said in the post I deleted wasn't directed at you. The LH comments were aimed directly at you. It's a 25 or 30 year old gimmick, man it's 2005, time to move on. If it was such an up to date gimmick Vince would be doing it. He did have Demolition, which is about as close he got to the gimmick, and how long ago has that been. The other stuff was at a bunch of jabronies that need to be buying a ticket....again.
I had hoped it would be constructive criticism, but after I re-read the post I realized it didn't come off that way, and like I said, I like you personally and I didn't want to hurt your feelings. I won't apologize for what I said, it's the way I feel, it just didn't come across like I intended. I DO beleive you should drop the gimmick, but I also think Ricky Morton should cut his hair. It's not intended to hurt feelings or make anyone angry. It's just what I think, and you know I have never been one to hold back much.
Although I am retired from the ring I still love this business and most of the guys that are carrying it on. I am not one of those people that are stuck in the past, I know things change and I welcome it. I hear all the time that things will never be the same and I don't expect them to be. Actually I am quite excited about some of the changes going on right now, and I can't wait for the next couple of years, just to see how it plays out. But I also know that, for me, in the ring isn't where I want or need to be. I realized it was time for me to move on, so I did one of the hardest things I have ever done, I made the decision to get out of the ring now. I didn't make a big deal out of it, no press release or anything like that, because I didn't find it newsworthy. My point here is, maybe it's time for you to move on too, re-invent yourself. Everything goes through changes, even butterflies were catapillars.
[ 09-07-2005, 11:35 PM: Message edited by: NYTERSS ]
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Sunday, September 04, 2005
ALL RANTS, NO RAVES!
I know recently HollywoodJimmy.com celebrated hitting half a million hits, which is incredible BUT the reason for that is that's it's the last place that nutless little bitches can go and trash people namelessly without anyone finding out who they are and stomping their misrable asses. You see a long while back J.D. McKay had a message board where you didn't have to register and it was a hotspot for all the Mississippi workers to go there and argue, put themselves over under different names, and say things they didn't have the guts to say to people's faces but eventually it got so out of hand they changed to a board that you had to register to post on and it became deserted INSTANTLY. So eventually J.D.'s website died because everyone moved on to HollywoodJimmy.com where they could continue there bullshit without consequence to this very day. Ironically J.D. had to bring his 'Shooting from the Hip' to HollywoodJimmy.com where everyone else was, the old "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" I guess. Everyone including Jimmy himself has been victim of these pussies trashing them and people have spoke out numerous times to try to get them to change there message board but it will never happen cause if they ever make Jimmy's board where you have to register then it will die like all the others.
It's really pathetic as people just get on there and just say ANYTHING they want no matter how non-factual it is but just repeat it over and over til some people start to believe it, like the Neil Taylor UPN story for instance. And as for myself, this asshole "BIB" has gone on there repeatedly saying that I'm a "redneck racist". Show me one goddamn thing I've ever said on the message board, in my column, on this blog, or even in the dressing room that was ever racist. You can't because there's not, but that doesn't stop this piece of shit from saying it over and over. Then he starts in about me trying to get on this so-called benefit show that Shawn Dandridge is putting together. Look back through the posts, when did I say anything about wanting to be on ANY FUCKING show, much less some fictional show that Dandridge is babbling about. I'm not looking to set foot in wrestling ring ANYWHERE ANYTIME soon. I haven't asked to be on anyone's show, I haven't talked about actually wrestling anywhere, yet all weekend people talked shit about how awful a benefit show would be if I was on it, when I have no intention on working one. Then a post I found particularly amusing was someone saying that I "kiss Chris Kilgore and Sammy Hall's ass". That's pretty funny considering I haven't seen or spoken to either one in OVER THREE YEARS!! I know people who rack there brains trying to figure out who it is that's bashing them with some dumbass name like "the one who knows" or "IWF Fan" or whatever. Look guys, it's not a "fan" or someone you don't know. Nine times out of ten it's someone who was sitting right across from you in the dressing room on Saturday night who doesn't have the guts to say anything to your face so he say's on the internet and then comes and asks you the next weekend if you "read what the marks have been saying about you on the message boards." Well you know what I give less than a fuck what any of those pussies have to say about me. Call me fat, I am, I've never denied that. Say I can't work, I've never denied that either. Say I don't take enough bumps, So fucking what? Talk about my shitty writing skills, Hey I never said I was Shakespeare. In spite of all that, even though according to you I'm the shits, I'm still worthy of your time to read everything I write, and for you to take the time to post about me on the message board. So who's the real asshole here??
Taking a look at the latest intellectual insight of indy wrestling's only award winning asshol.....uh I mean writer
Well unless you've been living under a rock or have n't read every fuckin' post that David Burcham has posted in the last month then you know that he has been given awards for his bi-monthly masterpiece that is 'Rants & Raves'. So let's take a look at a few of the POINTS he made this go around followed by my COUNTERPOINT.
"--Believe it or not, there are still 'Net wrestling columnists who absolutly refuse to acknowledge that the whole Matt Hardy/Lita/Edge angle was a work from the very first rumor that Lita and Edge "had an affair". They have their match at "Summerslam" and the 'Net wrestling columnists proclaim the feud over and done with when the "re-hired" Hardy loses to Edge when the referee stops the match. Um... that was the first match in the feud and now, according to these writers' "wrestling saavy", it's over?"
Well I can't speak for all "'Net wrestling columnists" but I think what they meant by it "being over" or at least what I meant was not saying that the WWE was finished having matches in the angle, but that they had basically killed the angle and Matt Hardy by the way they booked the match and the angle from his return on. Yes there will be more matches but it's essentially over as far as how hugely OVER Matt was during his hiatus. Also, call me a stupid mark but I'm not convinced the entire thing was a work. Maybe it was but based on how it all went down, I think something really happened with Edge and Lita and they made it a work after the fact. I don't think the writer's are creative enough to have staged a "worked shoot" that well for things to fall into place the way they did. I also don't think if it was a work from the word go they would have let Matt go to all these indy shows and put over everybody and there mama. I just finished watching an indy show dvd from July where Matt Hardy putt over AJ Styles CLEAN in the middle of the ring. If he was secretly working for them all along I don't think they would have allowed that. I also don't think they would have let Wade Keller make all the money off selling the shoot interview telling the whole story of it, they would have found a way to market it themselves instead of letting a "sheet writer" cash in on it. Too many things don't add up for it to be a full work from beginning to end. Also the fact they were seen together doesn't disprove anything, you mean to tell me you've never heard of a couple who broke over one cheating getting back together. Nah, that's never happened. But I know, because no one wants to say they got fooled, everyone assumes EVERYTHING to do with wrestling is a work. Regardless of whether you feel it's a work or shoot, there's one thing everyone has to agree on, the WWE have taken an angle that could have been a huge draw and fucked it nine ways from Sunday, and killed Matt Hardy's momentum in the process, why would they do that if it all was a work from day one???
"--'Net writers bitch and moan that WWE isn't even trying to create new stars. Then they bitch and moan when Booker T, Chris Benoit, the Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, and Ric Flair put over guys like Ken Kennedy, Orlando Jordan, Randy Orton, Carlito Cool, and Chris Masters."
Ok, here's the thing. Orton and Carlito I have no problem with. They deserved to be pushed they will be major stars for years to come. My problem is shit ass guys like Chris Masters getting pushed into an angle with Shawn Michaels when talented guys like Shannon Moore, Charlie Haas, and Rhyno are getting cut. But hey, I'm sure people will turn out in record numbers when they finally book a Orlando Jordan vs. Rob Conway main event for Wrestlemania.
I agree with most of the other stuff he said, I originally was gonna go on a tirade about how people were acting about the benefit ideas but Burcham pretty well covered that. So I guess that's all for now, but I will be posting soon with the return of CHW Cheap Heat Wrestling and more, so keep reading so you'll have something to bitch later.
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